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How Much Should I Charge Clients for 1, 5 or 10+ Displays?

Posted on March 1st, 2007.

Everyone has different prices they charge. This section will give you a guide as to what prices you could also charge business owners to advertise in your business card display board.

Some industries may be prepared to spend more then others?

Dean

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indianajon |

Hi Dean,

I was just wondering if you would ever charge less for advertising in a lower traffic location versus a higher traffic location?

The blog is great, sharing this type of information will help us all!

Jon

Feb 20, 1:11 PM —

deanc
March 2nd, 2007

Hi John…welcome to the blog!

Feb 20, 4:14 PM —

deanc
March 2nd, 2007

There is a couple of ways to think about this.

If you have 10 displays, and only 6 are located, then by all means, charge what you need to for the display in the less desirable location. You could even use it as your ‘bonus display’. What I mean by this, is that you may decide to do deals with certain people..like “if you pay me 6 months up front, i’ll put you in my display at this location (the lesser desired one) for free for one month”.

When you get to the point that you have all your business card displays located, thats when you need to make a decision on either removing the ‘lesser’ display to a better location, or buy more displays from your supplier.

Good luck and keep the questions and comments coming.

Dean

Feb 20, 4:33 PM —

deanc
March 2nd, 2007

andrewinaustin |

Someone asked a question in another section, and I think the best place to answer it is actually here.

The question was how much do you charge? I’d love to see what everyone else is charging. The name of my business is Dollar-a-Day Advertising and you can guess how much I charge. I only do 6 or 12 month contracts.

What about everyone else?

Feb 26, 8:02 PM —

deanc
March 2nd, 2007

deanc |

Hi Andrew,

When you say you charge $1 per day, is that fixed?

What I mean is, what if they would like to advertise in 10 of your displays, do you still charge that amount?

How about a 6 month contract as apposed to a 12 month contract?

We found that $1 per day seemed to be the going rate, but a discount always seemed to be the order of the day for a ‘bulk’ deal.

For example, advertising in 10 displays would be more like 80c per day per display. The multiple display deals are obviously what you want to get the displays filled asap.

Look forward to your reply.

Dean

Feb 27, 10:29 AM —

deanc
March 2nd, 2007

indianajon |

Hi Andrew,

I agree with Dean that I think volume is where it is at in this business. I have not put any units up yet, and probably won’t for a little bit yet. At this point I am getting a variety of locations signed up and am talking to a variety of advertisers. I am quoting $20/month or 65 cents a day if they take 10 units or more. I already have 2 advertisers that are taking ten units.

I explain to these business owners that for $200.00 they are getting advertising for 31 days a month in 10 different locations for about what they would pay for a 1 day ad in our main newspapers. We don’t have the free newspapers like the “Thrifty Nickel” in our area although we do have several smaller papers but they are not free.

Due to having a variety of traffic volume locations to quote one flat fee for any of my locations would be difficult. I am finding it easier to quote a range and then when they decide how many locations and which ones they want I can quote them a final figure. At this point I want to get as many locations up and running for the three smaller towns I am locating them in. Now these towns are only 3-4 miles apart so my multiple location advertisers want to be in all three.

To load say 15 locations in these 3 towns, especially with multiple location advertisers, will take a limited amount of time and I will be happy to be getting an average of $20-$23 a space at this time.

These three smaller towns towns are only a portion of my County which has a population of 485,000+/- so I am kind of learning as I go before I hit the main areas of my County. I grew up in one of these smaller towns so I know some of the business owners very well. A good friend who owns two Dairy Queens in 2 of the 3 towns is doing everything he can to get the regional manager to allow him to put the units in his stores. Another friend owns a Subway and the same thing with him. Getting in these large franchises is difficult, if even possible, but if I do I’m sure I will be willing to take less than $20/unit if they advertise county wide.

Hope I helped you some, this is just how I am approaching things at this time(Which may change in the future)

Jon

Feb 27, 11:59 AM —

deanc
March 2nd, 2007

Great job Jon!

The pricing structure you have put in place for people to advertise in 10 of your units is great. 65c multipled over 10 units EVERYDAY works out very well. My thought when I read this is that you will fill your displays alot quicker which will then allow you to start charging more money as you progress.

There is nothing like confidence to propel you along, and having people going in 10 displays clearly demonstrates to you that there is value in what you are offering…no doubt about it.

See, people will by from you if you deliver your message with conviction…and conviction won’t be a problem for you from now on. So charging alittle less initially is the best thing you can do to ‘get the engine started’

Excellent angle Jon, and keep us posted!

Dean

Feb 28, 9:54 AM —

deanc
March 2nd, 2007

andrewinaustin |

My dollar-a-day charge does come down if they advertise in multiple units. I use a rough guide of: for every extra display you advertise in, the rate drops by 10%, and the lowest is 50% off.

Mar 1, 11:53 AM —

deanc
March 2nd, 2007

I have taken the Wal-Mart approach to pricing. I am selling low and filling the displays up. I have several displays from a manufacturer that has 30+ slots and I sell them for $250 including free business cards…not hard at all to close the sale. I sell another with 16 spots at $465 per year with free cards and offer exclusivity and use this display in more upscale locations. My only terms for payment are 100% up front or 1/2 down with 1/2 due at signing and half due in 30 days. I either have the charge card or a post dated check for the balance. It works for me. I don’t discount for mulitple units either. I use the full color 4/1 business cards because you cannot get the quality for the price…even at Office Max. They see the quality…SOLD!

dmiles2
March 2nd, 2007

These are all great ideas. I might as well offer an idea now. I have yet to get approval from my local lender for funds to commence this venture, however, it has not stopped me from devising ways to offer advertisers choices for my services. Of course I had not thought of the barter system, as in the beginning, using barter does not pay the gas (lol, unless you hit up a gas station for the barter!)

Regardless, once approved and operational, I would be using a website where I can incorporate a shopping cart where paypal would be used for CC charges and a custom setup (not with paypal) to allow me to accept cheques and cash while I am at the business that moment. This way, I can receive payment and offer a statement or receipt right away.

I will discuss more on the website at a later date. About my fee structure, being a thrifty shopper myself, I see value in discounts. With that said, I would offer 8 different levels of pricing. Full price for offering no discount at all; 10% discount for offering 10% (printed right on the cards); 20% discount for offering 20% and so on. I figure if the advertiser is willing to offer the proposed discount, I would meet them half way and GIVE them that very discount! There will be a maximum of 40% off, either for a 6-month or 12-month term.

I am currently working on a schema to also incorporate the “upper left to bottom right” method used by the employment world to assimilate resumes at a very fast pace. Allow me to explain. An employer or employment agency could receive as many as hundreds of resumes for a particular job posting. It has been documented that it takes 10 seconds to make an impression with a resume. Of course, as we do it in the English speaking world, we read from left to right, top to bottom. To make that impression, very pertinent information is required in the left diagonal (looking at a regular sheet of paper, draw an imaginary line from the bottom left to the upper right.) This is where eye grabbing happens first. Because of this, discounts will be offered based on where the advertiser is situated in the display.

I will forward an excel spreadsheet next week detailing my reasoning for others to view and possibly help them out. Of course, this is all theory as I have mentioned above, I am not in business just yet.

All the best and chat soon,

Derrick

askderrick
March 11th, 2007

Hi Derrick.

WOO HOO!

Thanks for sharing your creative thoughts on how you plan to ATTACK this business…you certainly have been thinking about it…excellent fee structure idea!

I really like the ’study’ of how the human mind works, then bringing it back into a practical format that can make us all more money, like selling adveristing space in our business card display boards (or soon to be in your case)!!

Firstly, your incentive for clients to offer bigger discounts is a great idea. The interesting part that shines through in your idea, is that what you’re asking for is congruent with your own offer. This shows the client you ‘walk your talk’…this would certainly help to get sales over the line. Please go back and read Derricks idea if you happened to just skim over it the first time. Love it!

Your thoughts about locating the best offers from left to right until it hits that imaginary line was well written, and certainly works. One thought that pops into my head right away after reading what you wrote, is that you could even explain this to the business owner, for a couple of reasons…

1) It shows your experience with what you are doing, and makes you sound like an advertising expert

2) After you explain this to them, it actually gives you alittle more leverage to get the deal over the line. So you could say “Mr/Mrs busines owner, if you decide to advertise in my business card display board on a 12 month deal, i’ll put you in the lefthand quadrant of my display to increase attention to your offer at no additional charge”. So it adds more value to your offer that YOU CREATED just prior to making the offer!

3) These ideas will both increases your chances of success.

Brilliant..I really love this stuff!

I remember when I used to advertise in the newspaper, I used to ask for the bottom righthand corner of the righthand page, because that is where people put their fingers to turn the page. This wouldn’t work in a business card display board because they are aren’t performing the same ‘turning a page’ action…but same type of idea.

Summary: Use Derricks ideas to create value during your ’sales pitch’, it’ll make it alot easier to justify the investment in the buyers mind.

Let us know about your website ideas whenever you feel the need, under the ‘websites’ section.

You can bring that type of input to this forum any day of the week you like Derrick…thanks!

Dean

deanc
March 11th, 2007

How does 26 Sales at $365 in 3 weeks sound…CASH…banked? It’s just been proven it’s possible in the USA market.

Gee wizz…I just got off the phone with Dave in Nth Carolina and he is just all over this business…sales and locations left right and centre!

The amount of passion he has for this business card displays advertising business is just awesome, and even after being in this business for many years myself, I was blown away at how simple he actually going about it, yet pulling still pulling money out of the displays like you and I would at an ATM machine!

For those of you reading this blog who are still thinking about buying business card displays, you just have to speak to Dave.

Please email me at dean@businesscarddisplays.info and i’ll give you his number right away.

Excellent!

Dean

deanc
March 15th, 2007

Question for Dmiles and any other folks that have a large number of advertisers.
I see some have chosen to include business card printing as part of the main yearly fee. It looks as if $100 has been set aside to offset the printing cost, with many online printers $100 will buy anywhere from 500-1,000 4/1 cards. Now my question will not be able to be answered in one simple way. But I understand you could play it safe and by 1,000 cards for the advertiser or you could up your profits and only by 500 cards. Anyone can see the risk in this, so please shed some information on what you have done in the past and maybe how many cards are taken in 6 months, like a least and most figure.

Thanks!

taylork
March 30th, 2007

Taylork….

First let me say…I just finished my first month in this business…As of today I’ve sold 57 ads and trust me…I am a rookie and there are many more on this forum who have many more sales.

I charge $350 if I do the cards and $295 per space if I use their cards. So as you can imagine…I sell most of them cards and I am netting out $310 per space. Actually the average for the 57 is $$302 per space.You do the math! That’s right! Nice huh! But I have been selling ads for a long long time.

I want to do their cards because I am picking up other printing and promotional sales from them I leave a catalog of printing and promo items and I get oders called in everyday that I never touch or physically write.

I came from kiosk electronic advertising however. I also represent a printer (try the one that advertises on the blog…”business card place.” that’s who I rep) and I pay $40 per thousand for 4/1 digitalbusiness cards on 12pt/14pt stock and they work fine on the displays. I sell almost everyone I call on a business cards. If they want 4/1 with UV…glossy…it’s only about $63 per k. I sell a lot of them bi-fold and some tri=fold cards. That includes design, set-up and proof sent to advertiser..delivered to me. I realize I am in a somewhat unique position but I went to a local printer and got him down to $52 per k for the same service.I figure a thousand is going to last for at least 2, 3 or even 4 locations. I have factored 2k or $80. Go to a printer and tell him you are going to send him at least 8 cards at a time to be printed…you can get a good price or go on line an become a re-seller.

Good Luck!

dmiles

dmiles2
March 30th, 2007

Excellent results Dave!

My old calculator tells me that’s $17214 you’ve made in a month. I then went and pulled out my new calculator just to double check that figure…and it said the same….Bravo!!! You’re on fire! I’m sure many readers are drawing from your advertising/sales knowledge…I know I certainly am!

Remember everyone…knowledge is power. OH NO…STOP! Let me try saying that again. APPLIED knowledge is power.

Great work Dave.

Dean

deanc
April 1st, 2007

That’s a great deal on cards…$40 per 1000. Makes it very viable to package in printing with your deals.

It’s very worthwhile doing the printing for the clients, then you don’t need to go back and harass them for more business cards everytime your displays need a top up.

Dave, here a question regarding the sales you’ve made. Do you sell the advertisers into multiple displays? What’s your ‘angle’ there?

Dean

deanc
April 1st, 2007

I do sell the majority into multiple displays. However, I don’t really discount. Of course they ask and I simply tell them…”Unfortunately, I am not able to give you a discount for multiple locations. I chose to give everybody the absolutely best price whether they buy one location or ten…and aren’t you glad I did. However, if you take these.xxx number of locations…you are in essense locking your competitors out! Now which other ones do you want?” I also tell them that I have a waiting list on most locations so if they have just a little bit of interest…they need to act now while I’m here.

Dean…I guess I go in with the attitude that I have such a great offer for you that if you don’t buy…I have plenty of people who will…AND I DO BELIEVE THAT!
I’m not cocky…it’s just I have been selling electronic kiosk advertising for $3,000 per ad and selling ads for $300+ is just too easy and no need to discount. I have found that when I tell them its the same price for 1 or 10…they appreciate the offer more!

Yes…My first month was great…If you will remember when I first started…My goal was to sell 1 ad in the morning and 1 ad in the afternoon. That is pretty much what I am doing with a few 4 and 5 days thrown in…Don’t make this hard…2 SALES A DAY TIMES 22 OR SO WORK DAYS…kinda brings it into a very workable plan!

dmiles

dmiles2
April 2nd, 2007

Yeh…totally agree, the attitude and belief is what works in any sales business…no doubt.

When you tell them that “they are in essense locking their competitors out by advertising in multiple displays”, does that mean you’re offering them exclusivity in your display for their particular industy Dave?

Dean

deanc
April 2nd, 2007

Speaking of attitude - now that winter is over, people’s attitudes up here in snow country have greatly improved. Plus, my attitude has stepped up a notch upon hearing the results above! With a new season and the great support on this blog, I am reenergized. dmiles has the right approach for success that I will implement immediately - we have something every business owner needs and wants…exposure and new customers! If they don’t see it, the next guy (their competitor) will!

heresmycard
April 2nd, 2007

Yes…I offer exclusivity on all my displays…I want this to work for them and not spread the “wealth” among several in the same industry. I have certain categories and when they are filled…I move to the next. I have some 40 or so categories I like to choose from.

Fear of Loss is a great motivator. I had a customer tell me he didn’t think he needed to do this… that “word of mouth” worked just fine for him…I chuckled and said…”Word of mouth is great…SLOW…but great…Since you have enough business…could you recommend another agent who may not be as successful as you that I could help become more successful?” HE SIGNED UP!

dmiles

dmiles2
April 2nd, 2007

heresmycard,

Great to see you’re feeling pumped up about making money…it’s a great foundation to build off!
Yep, certainly take a leaf out of dmiles book…his passion comes through in every post, and he will have business card displays everywhere you look before to long!

To right! Every business owner needs exposure, customers and business cards…I think you have a solution!

There we go…a headline for you “DO YOU USE BUSINESS CARDS? DO YOU NEED EXPOSURE? COULD YOU USE NEW CUSTOMERS?” I can solve all those problems for you if you just give me 7 minutes of your time….

Dean

deanc
April 2nd, 2007

Nice closing line dmiles…I can see how you got that deal!

In the section about good books to read, there is one called “secrets of closing the sale” by Zig Ziglar…and it’s full on simular lines to get the deals over the line.

Sales is all about building as much scarcity & urgency as possible…as long as what you’re selling is ethical of course. If you truely believe in the price you are charging like dmiles does, then the money will come.

Dean

deanc
April 2nd, 2007

Great Stuff Dean! This is my 1st email and it is 12:00am so I am going to have to save all my questions for another email. I’ve recently moved from california to georgia and have placed 5 in 2 weeks. Due to customer service and faulty display engineering
I am not going to be buying anymore of these of those. Please give me dave’s number so I can ask him about the displays he
uses. I would love to hear from you.

P.S. This comment box is really difficult to write an email and proof read.

Sincerely, Aaron
Twin City, Georgia

Aaron Nicholson
April 25th, 2007

Good Morning Aaron,

WELCOME TO THE FORUM!

Thanks for the comment, and great job getting your displays located so quick. You sound like you’re ready to roll and get your business card displays working for you!

You mentioned which type of displays you’re having problems with, and I would have like to have left that in, but we only really have one rule on this forum, and that’s not to mention which displays you use. Your cmment is valued and motivating, so keep your thoughts, comments and ideas coming!

Hey Aaron, your comment is the exact reason why I put a checklist together of things to find out before buying displays. One of the questions may have saved you in this case (question #4), but you weren’t to know…next time! Here’s the checklist for those of you who may not have seen it http://businesscarddisplays.info/checklist-before-buying-business-card-displays.html

I’ve emailed you info on what displays Dave uses.

Oh yes…the comments box problem will be sorted next week.

So how did you locate your displays…and techniques or ‘tricks’ you’d like to share?

Dean

deanc
April 25th, 2007

Thanks Dean,
Since I am new to Georgia, the
first thing I did was go into
Establishments I thought might be a
good location. I would look to see
if there would be a good spot for
the display and how the flow of customer traffic moves. I also study the establishment to see where the customers are most likely waiting or will stop to view the display. By doing this I prepare myself for objections like “I don’t know where we would put it”. I can then immediately point to the location in the establishment that I would like the display to be placed. Instead of us both trying to figure it out together and have it end up somewhere it wouldn’t be effective. I am by no means a pro at placing displays. I just use my best judgment and try to think like a potential viewer.

I will give you a few of my favorite scenarios of the easiest way I have placed displays.

I found an upscale coffee shop in town that I wanted to place my display.
I had been in there 3 or 4 times trying to catch the owner. I had shown the “plan” to the manager and she liked it. They already had a cork board that was all junked up with fliers and cards and the mess was starting to move on to the counters where people picked up their coffee. I informed her that most the people that have their information there were not even patrons of the shop and they were just using them. I know because I see the same info everywhere I go.

I knew that by just relying on her to talk to the owner and trying to explain the concept, the words would come out wrong or she would just plain forget. So what I did was bring in the display and ask her if I could install it for the owner to see and try first hand. This way I knew she wouldn’t forget to mention it when they came in. I told her if the owner didn’t like it I would be back to take it down asap.

What I have learned is that some people are afraid of change in their establishment or trying something new. Even though we are providing a FREE service for their customers. Once the display is up it’s almost like the pain is over. They realize “that wasn’t so bad”. I always let them know when installing, that if for any reason they decide the display isn’t working out I will remove it immediately. This gives them a sense of control, but has never happened once. After a while having the display there grows on them and they get used to seeing it. It starts to just be a part of their establishment.

When the owner did finally come in he instantly noticed it and loved it. By doing this, when I got the chance to talk to him I then had the power of the take away. The display was already up and he didn’t want me to take it down. This was quite the reverse role of me trying to do anything to get the display up. I’m not saying you should do this with every location, but it did work well in this situation where the owner only comes in sporadically and you are dealing with a manager. Anyone can do this

More to come if you liked this blog

Aaron Nicholson
April 26th, 2007

Hi Aaron,

Wow!

That was great information and a very clever way to locate displays! The power of your suggestion to simply leave the business card display board in the establishment is just awesome, and it TOTALLY MAKES SENSE! Your a smart man, and this is a lesson for everyone (me included) that should be used into the future whereever possible.

I really like how you explained about people being ’scared of change’. This is true for all of us…it’s like when you finally decide you want to get your hair cut short, and you really don’t know how it’s going to look, and the moment you sit in that chair at the hairdresser knowing exactly what is about to happen. THEN… a few people tell you it looks great, then you figure that it was a good move because it only takes you half the time or less to do your hair…and it’s back to business as usual.

The way you’ve gone about this is something that everyone should be able to realate to, and therefore anyone reading your post Aaron should be able to understand why your method worked so well. This is called ‘taking control over people’s natural fear of of change’ and turning it on it’s head - in a way that is of NO RISK to the business owner of the potential location.

Brad from NC did a simular thing…just took control by measuring up a space and just playing deaf when they said “no”.

Also Aaron, the way you sized up the traffic flow was also very good. Standing outside for 10 minutes prior and observing is smart, that way when you walk in and start talking, you can respond to them in a way that shows you’ve done your homework on their business… EG. “I have been observing the traffic flow through your business and notice that this location here would be the best place to display this business card vending machine…you’re customers would really get some great use out”. Something along those lines….

Bravo Aaron.

This is powerful and should be taken note of by all.

Any thoughts or comments for Aaron anyone?

Dean

deanc
April 26th, 2007

Thanks Dean. The thing I love about this forum is I can write something one day and by the next I will have a loyal follow up comment from Dean. Great way to manage the forum and keep everyone involved!

I have a question for everyone reguarding a stiuation I am faceing with a business owner of a busy carwash I would love to get a display placed in.

The carwash is only about 4 months old and the owner has already let people start putting their cards on the counter next to the register. He even gone as far as putting 3 sets of those plastic displays that hold 8 cards there. The owner likes the idea of my display, but is concerned that the people that already have put their cards there are his loyal customers, and if he takes away the ability to leave their cards for free they will stop patronizing his business. He also thinks that these people are coming in once a week and getting a car wash to be able to keep up on thier cards.

I suggested that if I could put a display in his establishment, he could keep those displays there. However.. There is a catch. The only people that would be allowed to keep and maintain their cards in his holders are the original people with cards there already. If he agreed I would write these business down and have the ability to take every other business that is not on the original list out in fthe future and use it as a lead for my displays. I figured this way we could see how loyal those customers really were. My hope is that after the cards run out people will not return to fill them and I can slowly have him remove all but one of his displays. The lead generator!

I havn’t got an anwser from him yet. Let me know everyones ideas of how they have delt with similar situations like this. Because this happens quite a bit to me.

I need to start posting these in the right areas on the forum, but this time I will post this right here

anicholson
April 26th, 2007

Hi Aaron,

Glad you like the forum…the forum certainly likes you and your ideas!

Here’s what came to my head after I read your post…

There are two different ways you can go. One is simple and the other could work:

1) Ditch the location all together (Not advised)

2) The good thing is that you have taken the time to listen to the car wash business owner, and you know exactly what he wants and how he feels. This is the part most people don’t find out.

So, you need to work in with him somehow (with a upsell follow-up plan to boot). What do I mean by this?

What he has on his counter is FREE LEADS STARING YOU IN THE FACE. If I were you, I would tell him that you’ll put those business cards in your display for free (stay with me here). This will ease his mind that he won’t loose his loyal customers, which is one of his objections taken care of.

Next, you could then politely call all those customers with business cards on his counter, and tell them that you’ve put your display in the car wash and their cards have been placed in the display for free. That’s a nice easy intro into the phone call. THEN, you could politely mention that you happen to have 9 other simular displays locally that they might be interested in advertising in…cheeky. So that’s how I would upsell them.

Now, if they say “no” to your ‘upsell’, then they’ll feel VERY GUILTY if they ask to put more of their business cards into your car wash location after their initial ones have been taken. AH HA